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		<title>Limo Buses</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 05 May 2012 19:26:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cava</dc:creator>
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<p>Thinking about what is happening in the Livery industry and why it is happening may help us in making large financial decisions.</p>
<p>Over the last several years, Limo Buses have really taken hold of the 10 + PAK carriage of passengers for large events such as proms, conventions and other venues.   In the late [...]]]></description>
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<p>Thinking about what is happening in the Livery industry and why it is happening may help us in making large financial decisions.</p>
<p>Over the last several years, Limo Buses have really taken hold of the 10 + PAK carriage of passengers for large events such as proms, conventions and other venues.   In the late 1990s and from 2000 up till 2005, large SUVs became in vogue for 10+ passengers. SUVs continue to remain popular but all you have to do is to go to a Limo Show, star of the show is the Limo Bus. <span id="more-830"></span></p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/02-limo-buses.jpg" alt="" title="Limo Buses and Interior" width="640" height="420" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-834" /></p>
<p>Why the popularity?  I think the increased popularity of Limo Bus carriage since 2005 has to do with the following (not in any particular order):</p>
<p>1) Public’s resentment regarding the fuel consumption of SUVs such as the H2.<br />
2) The experience riding in a Limo Bus is different than being in a Limousine or a stretch SUV.<br />
3) Most Limo Buses are exempt from local authority in most areas. These coaches come under the auspices of the D.O.T.<br />
4) Up to just under GVW 25,000 pounds you don’t need a CDL license to drive these buses in many areas.<br />
5) Limo Buses typically have heavier duty frames, suspensions, which mean kinder ride and a longer usefully lives.<br />
6) You can fit more people in larger Limo Buses.  The largest stretch SUV hold up 24 passengers compare this to the largest Limo Buses that can hold up to around 52 passengers.</p>
<p>Let’s take a look at these reasons.</p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/03-limo-bus-gas-prices.jpg" alt="" title="High gas prices related to limo bus use" width="440" height="330" class="alignright size-full wp-image-838" />1) Public resentment regarding SUVs became apparent with the spike in oil prices that we have experienced since 2000 when gas was at 1.50 a gallon.  In 2003/ 2004 we had a depression brought on by the burst in the Internet bubble and also around this point we got involved in the war in Iraqi.  Big gas guzzling vehicle were suddenly no longer in vogue.  Even Arnold Schwarzenegger, as the Governor of California, had to sell off his prized fleet of Hummers (to the tune of $850K).  Limo Buses are high occupancy vehicles; manufacturers making them ‘greener’ (as are limousines) and there does not seem to be similar resentment at this platform level.</p>
<p>2) The experience in taking a Limo Bus is different then the experience in riding in a large stretch SUV.  Beyond all kinds of apparatus that you can put in a Limo Bus versus an SUV, I think the big difference lies in how the passengers can interact.  In a long stretch H2 or Escalade when you are sitting in the front of the SUV you can forget about having a conversation with people at the other end, unless you are the boss and your employees are aboard.  The Limo Bus on the other hand has a wide isle, and with interior heights in the 6.5’ range, which makes moving around inside these buses easier and this enables greater interaction for all riders.  </p>
<p>3) Limousine Operators in many areas have to purchase permits to operate in many public venues such as airports, ports or even in downtown areas.  Places like downtown Chicago where only QVM vehicles can get permits to operate.  The local authorities levy fees, fines for non-conforming coaches/operators and they determine which coaches are acceptable or not acceptable for the area under their control.</p>
<p>Limo Buses are subject to D.O.T. regulations.  These buses can service Ports of all kinds with no permits required (at least around the South Florida market).  The D.O.T sets rules for the entire country.  Trucks, Motorcoach Lines and others are also under D.O.T. control.  They have a separate inspection process and D.O.T. inspections are required for coaches that hold over so many passengers.  It varies according to the area where you are located.  The D.O.T. enforces its rules differently from area to area.  New York City, New Jersey’s D.O.Ts are notoriously tough and appear to getting tougher, especially on Limousine companies.  The D.O.T also tells you whether you have to have a direct access to the passenger compartment of the Limo Bus, which is spectacularly important to know, if you are looking for a Limo Bus in some areas..</p>
<p>4) Many areas allow drivers who do not have Commercial Driver’s Licenses to operate truck and other vehicles with Gross Vehicle Weight under 25,000 pounds which covers most Limo Buses on the market.  These areas typically require that the Driver has “Passenger Endorsement”, which is a written test down in Florida, and that means it is not that hard to get.</p>
<p>5) Many operators operate their Limo Buses once a week on the weekend, depending on the time of year and how aggressively the operator is in the market. A Limo Bus that is putting 20,000 miles per year is very common.  Operators that are planning to put on more miles, depending on the size of the platform, may need to go up one chassis size (such as going from an E450 to an F550).  The conventional wisdom is that if you are going to put a lot of miles on a Limo Bus buy the Diesel, which works except for some real problematic Diesel Motors that are on the market.  </p>
<p>Diesel motors for Limo Buses generally make better sense than Gas motors; there are of course some exceptions to this.  Diesel motors are built to heavier specs than most gas motors, which typically leads to a longer useful life for a Diesel.  The Limo Bus typically has to idle for long periods which use up a lot gas, and strains the motor.  Diesels can idle for long periods with little gas use.  The operator who only plans to put 20,000 miles a year on its coach may want to look at the difference in cost between gas &#038; diesel in terms of the cost of the coach.  A gas coach may cost a lot less than the same coach with a diesel motor and you can buy a lot of diesel with $10,000.00.</p>
<p>All motors have issues.  When you are purchasing you should check out what the possible issues are prior to purchasing the Bus, ask the operator if he experienced any of these issues and find out how the owner may have handled these issues.   Have problem areas, like the welds that attach the body of the coach on to the chassis rails, should be checked for cracking.</p>
<p>How you plan to use the bus should determine which platform you should purchase.  For instance, if you know that the Bus will be only going out on weekends and you will be only putting a 300 to 500 miles per week on the bus, then a light weight Ford/Chevy Chassis will work, you don’t need an F650\750, International or Freightliner chassis.   If you plan to put a lot of miles on the coach then these larger chassis may make sense. </p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/04-limo-bus-interior.jpg" alt="" title="Limo Bus Interior" width="640" height="400" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-839" /></p>
<p>6) Up until fairly recently, there have not been many Mid-Size Limo Buses on the market.  By Mid-Size, I mean Limo Buses that will hold over 32 passengers.  Krystal’s KK38 was typically the largest size Limo Bus available which is rated at 28/30 passengers (in California).  Now you can purchase a good variety of Mid-Size Limo Buses. The cost of the Bus typically rises as the passenger capacity rises.  New Limo Bus builders have entered the market and Coach Builder’s can purchase Commercial Buses with chassis and shell constructed to their specs and then fit them out.  You can find Limo Buses made on General Coach of America Frames, Gaval, Champion and others.  National Builders like Krystal, Tiffany, Ameritrans, Turtletop and others.  There are also some good regional builders such as LimoLube in Chicago.</p>
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		<title>Airless Tire</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2012 17:17:13 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cava</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>There is one thing about automobiles of all kinds, shapes, and ages, they all have tires.  Yep, tires are required, and there is quite a history behind tires and tire companies which stretch back to bicycle days.  There have been many innovations over the years, with bias ply, radials, run-flats and now&#8230; non-pneumatic [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one thing about automobiles of all kinds, shapes, and ages, they all have tires.  Yep, tires are required, and there is quite a history behind tires and tire companies which stretch back to bicycle days.  There have been many innovations over the years, with bias ply, radials, run-flats and now&#8230; non-pneumatic tires, which brings us full circle back to the wheel.</p>
<p>In 1889 the Michelin brothers came out with a startlingly new, at the time, removable pneumatic tire.   The Michelin Tire Company, a French multinational behemoth of a company announced in 2005, the development of a startlingly new non-pneumatic tire (NPT). It called the tire a Tweel (tire+wheel).  Unfortunately the “Coming-Soon” in the news captions was a little premature, but we may finally be getting there. <span id="more-658"></span></p>
<div id="attachment_663" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 460px"><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/Tweel-airless-tire.jpg" alt="" title="Tweel-airless-tire" width="450" height="367" class="size-full wp-image-663" /><p class="wp-caption-text">The Tweel airless tire</p></div>
<p>The Tweel uses plastic resin structural spokes, almost like a bicycle, only these plastic spokes provide cushioning and load carrying ability.</p>
<p>The Tweel removes air and adds plastic leafs that provide the suspension and cushioning for the ride</p>
<p>Not to be out done, Bridgestone, the world’s largest tire company announced it’s own NPT first in 2006 and then again in December of 2010.  They have indicating that its tire is ready to go.  The Bridgestone NPT tires are made out of 100% recycled material.</p>
<div id="attachment_660" class="wp-caption alignnone" style="width: 650px"><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/bridgestone-npt.jpg" alt="" title="Bridgestone NPT" width="640" height="360" class="size-full wp-image-660" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Bridgestone NPT tires</p></div>
<p>The concept is fantastic.  A tire that gets its cushioning from interior plastic spokes designed to bend with the terrain. With the Michelin’s NPT cushioning the ride is accomplished with a honey comb styled plastic leafs that run from the hub of the wheel to the outer rim of the tire.  Bridgestone’s tire operates on basically same premise, only it uses curved thermoplastic leafs looks a lot like a Spirograph drawing.</p>
<p>Think of it, no more flats, filling up the air, spares and tires 100,000 mile tire warranty.  If the NPT is as comfortable, more energy efficient, and greener than what we have on the road it would be a no brainer. </p>
<p>It appears that the US Military took a big interest (including some money?) in getting these tires for its HUMVEES back around 2005.  The Military is desperate for a tire that does not go flat. A tire that handles very rough terrain that is impervious to I.E.D. devices.  An airless tire has greater contact with the road.  It will keep going in spite of artery fire and it will continue to work even if 30% of it is blown away.</p>
<p><iframe width="640" height="480" src="http://www.youtube.com/embed/4jYcX_D09ig?rel=0" frameborder="0" allowfullscreen></iframe></p>
<p>Enter Resilient Technologies.  Resilient came up with the honeycombed design and apparently it was going to have the tire ready for tests on the HUMVEE in December of 2011.  I have not been able to confirm if that has happened, but now I am seeing the same tire being presented by Michelin.</p>
<p>Meanwhile , Goodyear has introduced its thermoplastic tire and has developed its use with small equipment, electronic wheel chairs and other small wheel uses.</p>
<p>Also the US Department of Safety has issued standards for airless tires as they pertain to passenger vehicles.  So apparently they see it coming.</p>
<p>The issues with these tires have to with their ability to carry the weight (I think that the Goodyear is rated at 660 lbs per tire). The information online suggests that taking a ride in one of these might not be exactly comfortable at this point.  I guess that is not as much of an issue as it might be in a 2012 Mercedes S550. </p>
<p>There are other problems with these wheels, apparently they accumulate too much heat and they are noisy.  Given the potential these wheels have I think the engineering will overcome these issues.</p>
<p>The other issue has to do with the cost of rolling out a new manufacturing method, it would mean virtually a complete retooling of the tire plant, or purchase of plants more adaptable for making these tires.  Additionally there are all the balancing equipment, and support equipment that would be required.</p>
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		<title>More than a Ride!</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Mar 2012 03:54:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cava</dc:creator>
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<p>Why does an “online video” go viral?  All of a sudden a person, pet, or other object becomes the object of mass fascination.  Why instantaneous sensations?  Maybe it is timing, or meeting some critical mass of viewers, or perhaps these icons embody some deep need in our society.   </p>
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<p>Why does an “online video” go viral?  All of a sudden a person, pet, or other object becomes the object of mass fascination.  Why instantaneous sensations?  Maybe it is timing, or meeting some critical mass of viewers, or perhaps these icons embody some deep need in our society.   </p>
<p>These icons tap into the deeper currents that always flow through our culture and society.  The iPhone phenomena for example:  One man’s vision to combine a phone with a computer created almost an unbelievable sensation.  It tapped into our collective need for communication, knowledge and adventure. The world will never be the same.  </p>
<p>There are other smart phones, some of them with unique features that surpass the iPhone, but it is the iPhone brand that has captured the hearts and minds of the world.  This is a case where the shear utility of device combined with its uniqueness lifted it to the status of a must have item almost immediately.  </p>
<p>While the Hummer can’t come close to causing the stir as the iPhone did, the Hummer in its own way, has messed with our psyche. <span id="more-641"></span></p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/yellow-hummer-arnold.jpg" alt="" title="Arnold with yellow Hummer" width="350" height="230" class="alignright size-full wp-image-644" />The Hummer started out as the military’s replacement vehicle for the Jeep.  It was Arnold Schwarzenegger who saw the HUMVEE and decided he wanted one.  Schwarzenegger had finished Terminator 2 in 1991.  At the height of his prominence as an action hero, he decided that this was his car&#8230; &#8220;Look at those deltoids; look at those calves&#8221;, Arnold’s comment upon having the first Hummer produced for civilian use in 1992.  This whole story of how one man convinced a large military manufacture to build a one-off, a custom build of the HUMVEE captured the Nations imagination and he went on to become an even greater public figure. In his third year as “Governator” he decided he needed to get “Green”, so he sold off his entire fleet of Hummers ($950K).</p>
<p>GM purchased the Hummer in 1999, it produced the first H2s.  GM produced three models: H1, H2 and H3.  The H1 was built up until 2006, the H2 last model year was 2009.  </p>
<p>The public’s reaction to the hummer was very interesting.  While it had amazing appeal initially, as time went on, the public and even the man who made it all possible had apparent issues with the machine.  It had nothing to do with the machine itself, but with fuel consumption.  The Hummer was perceived to be wastefully at odds with American’s desire to rid itself of its reliance on overseas oil.  The public perception for this vehicle changed&#8230; instead of seeing Arnold, the Terminator in the H2&#8230; many now saw an arrogant,  wasteful, money-grubbing individuals who apparently had no concern for how much fuel their huge vehicle was consuming. Sales of Hummers dropped from 33,000 units in 2005 to just over 6,000 in 2008!! </p>
<p>All of that probably would not have made a difference to the Limousine industry except that the Hummer is one of the few (Excursion is another) SUVs that actually make a great stretched Limousine on the basis of mechanical and structural integrity.  Much of that has to do with the frame size of the H2.  (Please note, in my opinion the H3 does not make a good long stretch machine, certainly not at 200 or more inches)</p>
<p>The demise of the H2 in 2009 was not all that unexpected, with GM facing extinction and the increasing pressure to trim expense, to cull slower selling items, GM tried to sell and then decided to shelf the brand.</p>
<p>This left the Limousine market in an awkward position.  There are very few other SUVs that can actually handle a longer 200” stretch.  The Escalade, Navigator, Expedition, other SUVs not quite as popular as these include the Yukon, Yukon-Denali, Accolade, Suburban and so on.  </p>
<p>The really nice thing about the H2 is that it is the same body style from start to finish in 2009.  The Hummer as a limousine still fascinates people in a good way.  Hummer limousine combines that sense of an aggressive Terminator machine with the feeling you get from being chauffeured in a 20 passenger limousine.  The ‘standard stretch’ 200 inch H2 will hold between 16 &#038; 22 people depending on the way the seating is configured.  </p>
<p>As long as customers keep calling asking for a Hummers, livery operators will buy them. The market for the stretch Hummers is still strong and it may be getting stronger.  It is difficult to find H2s that are in good condition and that are priced right.  The market demand drives the price and the price of H2 on the market has risen over the last 6 months. </p>
<p>The best looking H2s I think are made by Tiffany, Krystal, Royale by Victor, Las Vegas CoachWorks, Legendary, some by Coastal, American Limousine.  There are also some regional custom builders that do a great job with these vehicles.  From my vantage point, I see basically two interior designs: 1) Wrap around seating, which look spacious and comfortable but hold a few less passenger then 2) Bench seating, which can fit more passengers but these can also be cramped.</p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/hummer-seating-limo.jpg" alt="" title="Seating inside a Hummer limo" width="640" height="253" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-646" /></p>
<p>Of course the interiors of these vehicles can have all types of configurations and options, from stainless steel headliners to raised roofs and lower floors, disco floors and ceilings, fireplaces, laser shows, large flat screen TVs, smoke machines, karaoke, stereo systems with enough power to lobotomize the occupants.  </p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/03/2008-H2-limo.jpg" alt="" title="2008 Hummer H2 Limo" width="640" height="180" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-650" /></p>
<p>The raised roof and lower floor are great options for the H2, it opens up the interior space, the  above is a 2008 H2 built by American Custom Coach, it has 55,000 miles and is being offered at $75,000.</p>
<p>Other cool options include jet doors, dually, and active extra axles.  Some of these options are costly and it is easy to push up the price on an H2 way over $100K.  Of course there are also 04/05 and 06 coaches out there that are priced less than $60K, less then the price of many luxury cars on the market.</p>
<p>The 200” H2 is more than a ride, it is a luxurious fascination with an aggressive exterior and tremendous interiors.</p>
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		<title>Greening a Limo with a Conversion Kit from XL Hybrid</title>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Feb 2012 16:48:08 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>LimoSales</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>A new hybrid conversion kit has become available recently that helps turn the classic limousine model, the Lincoln Town Car, into a green machine. A small startup called XL Hybrids designed a small electric motor that runs off of a battery and takes less than six hours to install. The installation process is relatively simple [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A new hybrid conversion kit has become available recently that helps turn the classic limousine model, the Lincoln Town Car, into a green machine. A small startup called <a href="http://xlhybrids.com" target="_blank">XL Hybrids</a> designed a small electric motor that runs off of a battery and takes less than six hours to install. The installation process is relatively simple and non-intrusive, and does not alter the appearance of the limo. </p>
<div id="attachment_627" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 610px"><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/XL-Hybrid-limo-conversion.jpg" alt="" title="XL Hybrid Limo Conversion Kit" width="600" height="375" class="size-full wp-image-627" /><p class="wp-caption-text">XL Hybrids adds an electric motor, an advanced lithium ion battery pack, and sophisticated control software to the limo</p></div>
<p>When the Town Car is used for city driving as a limo, it can only manage a fuel efficiency around 14 miles per gallon. This small device has been proven to increase the overall horsepower by 20, and drops the fuel usage by up to 30 percent. This is a drastic increase for such a small change. The company states that for commercial fleets, the purchase of a unit would pay back the owners in fuel savings within 2 years. Rising fuel prices could make that period even shorter. <span id="more-626"></span></p>
<p>Livery operators and limousine fleets are struggling to maintain a profit margin as fuel costs soar and local governments push them to cut emissions. The Town Car is not the most fuel efficient car, but it is synonymous with the limo image. The XL Hybrids requested real data from some of the country&#8217;s largest fleets when designing the device. As few other users put so many monthly miles on this specific model.</p>
<p>Many other benefits come along with the fuel usage reduction, but savings are the main selling point the company is focusing on. By enticing limo fleets to adopt the equipment and improve their bottom line, XL (stands for “extra large” vehicles) Hybrids would also help the environment and economy by reducing fuel consumption. The simple installation process encourages fleets to purchase the equipment. A lithium-ion battery is added that leaves three quarters of the trunk open for luggage, and an electric motor is attached to the differential. A software upgrade helps the engine&#8217;s computer manage the new motor. &#8220;You don’t need high-tech tools to install it, or much training,&#8221; Tod Hynes the president of Massachusetts-based XL Hybrids Inc., “The retrofit can be done in a standard garage.&#8221;</p>
<p>XL Hybrids didn&#8217;t design completely new parts, they simply used existing equipment in a new way. This makes it easy to source and create the product without a long manufacturing delay. On top of all of this, the addition doesn&#8217;t void the warranty and it only requires a new $20 belt at a 50,000 interval for top performance.</p>
<p>This small change is a serious improvement for fleet operators feeling the pressure to green their cars. While the XL kit won&#8217;t make a Lincoln Town Car into a fully electrical vehicle, it allows drivers to upgrade the vehicles their customers want instead of investing in unpopular models. A Smart Car may use no gas, but it lacks the luxury of a limo. Customers can continue to travel in the stylish interior of a Town Car while the company spends less on fuel.</p>
<p>At this point, the company is hoping to reach annual numbers of 10,000 conversions per year. They are still negotiating the terms of their first 500 van conversion job for a private fleet. Putting the units in highly used vehicles will give the company a better idea of how to improve future models.</p>
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		<title>Will the New Lincoln MKT and Cadillac XTS have that Limo Dazzle of Old?</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 22 Feb 2012 22:31:10 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cava</dc:creator>
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<p>August of 2011 marked the end of production of Ford’s Lincoln Town Car, a fact bemoaned by most limousine operators.  The Lincoln Town Car had basically taken over the Livery based limousine market (but not the Funeral Market) for many good reasons.  </p>
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<p>August of 2011 marked the end of production of Ford’s Lincoln Town Car, a fact bemoaned by most limousine operators.  The Lincoln Town Car had basically taken over the Livery based limousine market (but not the Funeral Market) for many good reasons.  </p>
<p>The Ford Motor Company and General Motors each work closely with the Livery and Funeral industry.  These manufacturers produce “shells” or “program cars” that only specially qualified Coach Builders can purchase.  These Builders have to go to Ford or GM or both to get qualified under their programs; Ford’s program is called the Quality Vehicle Manufacturer (QVM) program, and GM calls its, the Certified Master Coachbuilder (CMC) program.  Ford and GM have done all the engineering for stretch vehicles and they have set all the guidelines Coachbuilders must follow to be qualified under their warranty programs.  Only QVM and CMC built vehicles can be exported to Canada. <span id="more-604"></span></p>
<p>Ford warranties QVM and CMC built cars for 4 years or 150,000 miles and GM warranty its program vehicles for 3 years or 150,000 miles… these warranties are transferrable for livery/funeral operators.  Notice that Chrysler is not included, Chrysler up until now has not been interested in participating in this program with the Livery or Funeral industry. Also note that not all Ford/GM vehicles are certifiable under the warranty program. For example H2s, Escalades and other vehicles are not included.  Any stretch over 140” do not qualify under these programs.   </p>
<p>Program cars are built on the same chassis as their related consumer cars, but both Ford &#038; GM reinforce these chassis, they add what is sometimes referred to as the limo package, which includes beefed up suspension, alternator, oil cooling systems, braking system and other changes designed to improve the performance and the durability of these coaches. These program cars have all the electrical set up so all the limousine builder has to do is cut the Shell, extend the body and run the electrical through a board and then to the rear of the vehicle, and finish off the interior.</p>
<p>Cadillac lost its dominant position in the Livery Industry to Lincoln in the early 1990s.  The majority of operators found that they liked the rear wheel drive Lincoln’s better than the front wheel drive Cadillac’s.  Cadillac remained (and remains) dominant in the Funeral Industry primarily due to lack of mileage generally put on Funeral coaches.  The front wheel drive Cadillac arguably looks better than the Lincoln, but when it comes to operation, Lincoln lasts. Cadillac require more care and attention, they have very regular issues such as motor mount failure, and valve cover gasket failures.  While you can easily find Lincoln Limos with 300,000 to 400,000 miles in good condition, at these mileages most Caddys are in the scrap yard.  GM parts also cost more than the same Ford equal parts.</p>
<div id="attachment_616" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 560px"><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/lincoln-town-car_cadillac-dts.jpg" alt="" title="lincoln-town-car_cadillac-dts" width="550" height="113" class="size-full wp-image-616" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Lincoln Town Car and Cadillac’s DTS</p></div>
<p>The collapse of GM, the near collapse of Ford, increasingly stiff federal fleet mileage requirements, and dwindling sales forced both Ford and GM to rethink their luxury car line up.  The Lincoln Town Car and Cadillac’s DTS are no longer being produced.  The new Lincoln Limousine is based on the MKT frame and utilizes a V6 motor.  Cadillac’s indicates that its DTS replacement the XTS (same frame as Lacrosse) due out sometime latter this year will also have a V6 motor.  Ford and GM need to compete worldwide in the luxury car market where their main competitors are Mercedes, BMW and maybe Lexus.</p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/lincoln-mkt_cadillac-xts.jpg" alt="" title="Lincoln MKT and Cadillac XTS" width="550" height="116" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-618" /></p>
<p>Lincoln’s MKT is a crossover vehicle, an SUV that drives like a car.  Cadillac’s XTS resembles the CTS, which is selling well both here and abroad.  The Limousine/Funeral industry represent only a very small fraction of these manufactures sales.  Their presence in the Livery/Funeral industry market is (apparently) both traditional and due to the prestige and high visibility associated with vehicles in these industries.  Basically, the Livery and the Funeral industry has to take whatever Lincoln and Cadillac has to give them.</p>
<p>The new Lincoln MKT Limousine was just shown at LCT’s (picture to left above) Vegas Limousine Convention.  This coach is shorter and narrower than the Town Car, it has the V6 motor versus the Town Cars’ V8 and the MKT is a hatch back.  A friend of mine drove one of the new models to the Convention, he indicated he was surprised by how well it drives, he indicated that it has plenty of power, head room, but not as much leg room and luggage capacity as the Town Car.  Many individuals do not like the split waterfall grill, sort of like a Cheshire cat with a middle tooth gap-look about it.</p>
<p>Cadillac has not, to best of my knowledge, finalized its XTS car, although there are some purported views online.  Cadillac has indicated that the maximum CMC stretch for this vehicle is 80”!  Cadillac has basically told the Livery Industry that it’s is trying to retain its dominant position in the Funeral Industry.  Unlike the fat cat look of the Lincoln, the Caddy looks very sharp, stylistically way ahead of Lincoln.  It remains to seen how this will translate into a stretch limousine since the XTS is smaller than the DTS. Caddy is reported to want to bring out a rear wheel version of the XTS with a bigger motor in 2015.</p>
<p>Meanwhile, the new Lincoln Hearse on the MKT chassis is a hit in the funeral industry.  The only problem is that there are not enough chassis available to fill the orders and many dealerships are indicating long waiting periods. </p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/lincoln-hearse-mkt.jpg" alt="" title="lincoln-hearse-mkt" width="450" height="197" class="aligncenter size-full wp-image-612" /></p>
<p>It remains to be seen how these cars will play out in the marketplace.  Ford/Lincoln has a new concept grill for the MKZ, which may be the same grill to end up on the MKT.  This design is interesting; Lincoln keeps straight lines and then bends the nose and grill to give the car some curvy, European lines.</p>
<div id="attachment_614" class="wp-caption aligncenter" style="width: 457px"><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/lincoln-mkz.jpg" alt="" title="Ford Lincoln MKZ" width="447" height="268" class="size-full wp-image-614" /><p class="wp-caption-text">Ford Lincoln MKZ</p></div>
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		<title>Mercedes Sprinter Conversions as Limo Buses</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 14 Feb 2012 20:19:46 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>Phil Cava</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[<p>Limo Buses Blog 3-25-12Limo Buses Blog 3-25-12Sprinter conversions make fantastic executive mini-shuttles and compact limo buses.  These vehicles work well in urban areas where high visibility and maneuverability are essential.  The Mercedes diesel motor can idle for hours and hours on very little fuel. Pile on the miles, Mercedes craftsmanship is top-notch. The 07/08 3.0 [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href='http://limosales.us/2012/02/mercedes-sprinter-conversions-as-limo-buses/limo-buses-blog-3-25-12-5/' rel='attachment wp-att-762'>Limo Buses Blog 3-25-12</a><a href='http://limosales.us/2012/02/mercedes-sprinter-conversions-as-limo-buses/limo-buses-blog-3-25-12-4/' rel='attachment wp-att-758'>Limo Buses Blog 3-25-12</a>Sprinter conversions make fantastic executive mini-shuttles and compact limo buses.  These vehicles work well in urban areas where high visibility and maneuverability are essential.  The Mercedes diesel motor can idle for hours and hours on very little fuel. Pile on the miles, Mercedes craftsmanship is top-notch. The 07/08 3.0 Turbo Diesel was named diesel motor of the year by Wards Automotive.</p>
<p>There are a couple of things you should be aware of in considering these vehicles.  The market has branded three different vehicles all Sprinters: Mercedes Sprinter, Dodge Sprinter, Freightliner Sprinter. All of these vehicles were made in Germany with Mercedes components and then imported into United States. The exterior logos and trim are the only differences. (There are gill kits to convert Dodge Sprinters into Mercedes Sprinters.  The kit cost, I hear, is under $3000.00.)</p>
<p>In terms of model years, 2001/6 basically the same vehicle, then in 2007 Mercedes made changes, the new V6 3 Liter turbo diesel. Mercedes Sprinter was named van of the year for 07/08 by Professional Van and Light Truck Magazine.   </p>
<p>There are two different wheel base models, a 150” and a 170”, and two different weight class models the 2500 (¾ ton) and the 3500 (1 ton).  The majority of these vehicles have high tops.  The 2500 can be configured to hold up to 12 passengers and the 3500 up to 15 passengers. This is a DOT classification for capacity, but depending on where you are located, it may or may not be enforced. My guess is that in big city areas you are more likely to see stricter enforcement.  The 2500 can be configured to fit up to 14 passengers and the 3500 up to 18 passengers.  </p>
<p>A dealer friend of mine has a 2008 back Sprinter built by Mid-West Design. </p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2008-Sprinter-Multi-View.jpg" alt="" title="2008 Mercedes Sprinter Limo Bus - Limo Sale" width="402" height="428" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-587" /></p>
<p>This Sprinter has 45,000 miles and it is top of the line, replacement cost is estimated at $96,000.  The Pink slip is available for all specs. The asking price is $67,900. <span id="more-585"></span></p>
<p>Sprinters are built in Germany (and some in Mexico) and shipped here, knocked-down. They do this to avoid a 25% import tax.  Here is a picture of 190&#8243; 2011 Mercedes Sprinter, with 10,000 miles.  The Wheel Base on most  Sprinters is either 150&#8243; or 170&#8243;, the 190&#8243; Wheel Base is not sold in USA.  This vehicle was special ordered through a Mercedes Dealer in LA area.  </p>
<p>It took 6 months to get the vehicle here from Germany.  It was converted by Pinnacle.  It is Vegas styled, loaded to the max, the original cost of this bus was approximately $128,000.  The owners need something bigger.  Your cost is $92,500K.</p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2011-190-Sprinter-Multi-View.jpg" alt="" title="2011 - 190 Sprinter Limo Conversion - Limo Sale" width="402" height="432" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-588" /></p>
<p>Or you can order a brand new 2012 Sprinter.  The, nicely fit out, base price is $84,600.  Sprinters don&#8217;t lack for options, and some, like the Barbus Rims are not inexpensive ($5K)&#8230;these options can push the cost of the coach into the mid 90 thousand dollar range. This is the most competitive pricing you will find on the web and you get full warranty, configure the vehicle to your specs. Typical build out is 8 to 10 weeks.  See pictures.</p>
<p><img src="http://limosales.us/wp-content/uploads/2012/02/2012-Sprinter-Multi-View.jpg" alt="" title="2012 Sprinter Limo Conversion - Limo Sale" width="402" height="426" class="alignnone size-full wp-image-589" /></p>
<p>Phil Cava</p>
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